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| - | For page names, use spaces. NeoOffice/J Screenshots looks better than NeojScreenshots as a page header. =) AND media wiki lets us. | + | '''For page names, use spaces.''' NeoOffice/J Screenshots looks better than NeojScreenshots as a page header. =) AND media wiki lets us. |
| been doing some editing of the community and editing help, and random pages. some make sense, some are just partial notes to me of what i want it to say, so don't be afraid to add on. | been doing some editing of the community and editing help, and random pages. some make sense, some are just partial notes to me of what i want it to say, so don't be afraid to add on. | ||
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| --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 12:06, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 12:06, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | ||
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| + | There's a two-step process to completely fixing our naming problem. | ||
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| + | # Go the the page you want to rename | ||
| + | # Open the "What links here" link (in the sidebar toolbox) in a new window/tab | ||
| + | # Click the "move" tab at the top of the page you want to rename | ||
| + | # Enter a new name, e.g. NeoOffice/J Screenshots and move the page and associated talk, if applicable; this moves the page to the new name and brings the history, etc., along. | ||
| + | # Go to each of the pages in the "What links here" page and fix the links, e.g. NeoOffice/J_Screenshots | ||
| + | ## MediaWiki will automatically redirect arrivals at the old page to the new (moved/renamed) page but we want to phase the old ones out and keep the links up to date. | ||
| + | ### I really love the "What links here" and "Move" features! | ||
| + | ## I've already done NeoOffice/J Screenshots (sorry, Jake, you'll have to update the NeoOffice.org links again, but for now people are just redirected with a little notice at the top of the destination) | ||
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| + | OK, I guess that wasn't exactly two steps. Conceptually it's two steps :-) | ||
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| + | --[[User:Sardisson|sardisson]] 17:26, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | ||
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| --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 07:00, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 07:00, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | ||
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| + | Ah, well, they do work in Camino. I missed the rant but I'll look it up :-) | ||
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| + | --[[User:Sardisson|sardisson]] 17:26, 1 Feb 2005 (CST) | ||
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More Notes
For page names, use spaces. NeoOffice/J Screenshots looks better than NeojScreenshots as a page header. =) AND media wiki lets us.
been doing some editing of the community and editing help, and random pages. some make sense, some are just partial notes to me of what i want it to say, so don't be afraid to add on.
-j
-- 12:06, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)
There's a two-step process to completely fixing our naming problem.
- Go the the page you want to rename
- Open the "What links here" link (in the sidebar toolbox) in a new window/tab
- Click the "move" tab at the top of the page you want to rename
- Enter a new name, e.g. NeoOffice/J Screenshots and move the page and associated talk, if applicable; this moves the page to the new name and brings the history, etc., along.
- Go to each of the pages in the "What links here" page and fix the links, e.g. NeoOffice/J_Screenshots
- MediaWiki will automatically redirect arrivals at the old page to the new (moved/renamed) page but we want to phase the old ones out and keep the links up to date.
- I really love the "What links here" and "Move" features!
- I've already done NeoOffice/J Screenshots (sorry, Jake, you'll have to update the NeoOffice.org links again, but for now people are just redirected with a little notice at the top of the destination)
- MediaWiki will automatically redirect arrivals at the old page to the new (moved/renamed) page but we want to phase the old ones out and keep the links up to date.
OK, I guess that wasn't exactly two steps. Conceptually it's two steps :-)
--sardisson 17:26, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)
Notes from the jake-of-all-trades
Ok, so I found out more about the skins. they are generated almost entirely by PHP. This is good, my PHP is better than my CSS, but this also means that i have to be careful as to not break anything. I'll play with it some later. Main things, to see about moving some of the top things to 'logged in only' mode and to get more links on the side (to match the main page)
Ideally I'd make a page that looked just like Tavi for the unlogged, and then when you logged in this would be what you saw, but we'll see.
THe front page (neooffice.org) should be updated.
I was trying to think of a way we could make a 'developer' page for us to discuss the wiki (maybe even experiment) without getting in the way of the main site. more to follow.
-j ps. chimera doesn't like the editing type buttons.
What "editing type buttons"? And why are you still using Chimera? -sa
the buttons at the top of the edit window, you know dig sig and things like that. and i use chimera because i don't like camino. (see rant in trinity)
-- 07:00, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)
Ah, well, they do work in Camino. I missed the rant but I'll look it up :-)
--sardisson 17:26, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)
Status of migration from the old wiki
Quick note from waldo: I brought everything over from the old wiki. At least I think i did. Note that some of the link names ahve changed to be more uniform and/or compliant with the neo->neo/c change. --W
Unfortunately, sardisson, Ovvldc, and others continued to edit the old wiki until it was defaced and closed on 19 Jan 2005. So we have to update every page (and some newly-created pages) to get back in sync. Remember to verify that the link/page names are the same here, r.f. Waldo above fixing our Neo->Neo/C mess :-) Plus that NeoWiki:Copyrights link at the bottom needs its details :-)
MediaWiki creates its titles/splits words on underscores (Rv_Bm not RvBm; displayed as Rv Bm), for future links.
What's Been Done
- The "Neo/J Tips and Hints" section is now up-to-date with the old wiki. --sardisson 02:40, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)
- The "OpenOffice.org/X11" section should now be up-to-date with the old wiki. --sardisson 03:10, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)
- The entire Neo/J section is now be up-to-date with the old wiki (plus some new items). --sardisson 04:52, 21 Jan 2005 (CST)
- The Neo/C section is now up-to-date with the old wiki (within the framework of Waldo's simplifed page structure) --sardisson 00:42, 25 Jan 2005 (CST)
- The More info section is now up-to-date with the old wiki --sardisson 00:42, 25 Jan 2005 (CST)
This means the migration is complete!
What's Left To Do
- Templates (let's hide some of these wacky headers, tabs, edit buttons, and get a larger default font?)
- Here's the MediaWiki CSS reference http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_styles (next time I have a weekend.... sardsson)
- Plus that NeoWiki:Copyrights link at the bottom needs its details :-)
Wiki software successfully installed.
Please see documentation on customizing the interface and the User's Guide for usage and configuration help.
NeoWiki Headline
NeoOffice/J is great!
is cool!
Smaller Section
- List
- List
- List
Even Smaller Section
WikiWords don't seem to work here; unsure whether this is good or bad.
Overall, MediaWiki will take a little bit of getting used to (the new/different formatting conventions in the wiki), but it seems nice enough in my limited time playing around (hmm, how do I set my timezone?) If it can lock it down a bit (so that people at least must log in--deter the casual folks who I think are the ones messing with things now) it might be worth it, if Jake feels he can get the template set up OK.
Lots of pages in the old wiki are only linked from one other page, so care will be needed bringing it over....
--sardisson 23:11, 30 Dec 2004 (CST)
More sections
I personally dislike WikiWords because they are too techie and frequently you do not want them to link. Time zone is set in your preferences page, BTW. I find MediaWiki nice to administer as well, though I haven't tried editing the skins.
New version (1.4.0) is coming out soon (I helped test it - busy little ant). Not that many new features that you'll need here, though.
BTW, you can set it up to only allow registered users to edit by putting the following line into your localsetting.php:
$wgWhitelistEdit = true;
Ovvldc 19:05, 1 Jan 2005 (CST)
Another section
So, I now think this looks really busy, too many little "edit" buttons all over and tocs and links and so forth. (Thanks, Waldo, for bringing everything over...it made things easier to see in a real-life comparison!) Don't know if editing the templates can help here or not. Hmm. What're the latest feelings about this, jake?
--sardisson 02:27, 14 Jan 2005 (CST)
i think the style of the media wiki is to have all of those edits.
however, that should be a sign, if there are 'too many' edits, the page is probably too long (unless it is a FAQ or something) and perhaps some organization is needed.
It puts the little edit thing every place you have a header/section. I've turned them, and the annoying tables-of-contents, off in my user prefs, so it's surely possible to disable them in your new template, too :-) I think the place the "edits" most bothered me was on the main page and now the FAQ....
-sa
