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So what is up with the table for OOo? The same exact structure we use for Neo/J, Neo/C, NeoL...works in a completely different way for OOo. How odd?! So what is up with the table for OOo? The same exact structure we use for Neo/J, Neo/C, NeoL...works in a completely different way for OOo. How odd?!
--[[User:Sardisson|sardisson]] 17:59, 24 October 2005 (CDT) --[[User:Sardisson|sardisson]] 17:59, 24 October 2005 (CDT)
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 +do you mean on the new front page or this one? the tables never seem to work right with me, the image sometimes over the text, the text doing weird word wrap around the image, seems to be varied on my screen size (and maybe browser, haven't tested too much).
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 +--[[User:Jake|Jake]] 08:51, 26 October 2005 (CDT)

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User Addition

I have made it so only sysops can make users. this will hopefully help with the spam. it also means, however, that we will need a way for new users to contact us to get an account. Like this New User


-- 15:02, 10 October 2005 (CDT)

Templates

I added a section into the editing page with current templates. Hopefully this will keep wheel inventing to a minimum. I divided it into style templates and content templates. If you know more, please add them (and if we have any crossovers, lets consoldate).

-- 14:12, 18 October 2005 (CDT)

NeoWiki Style Guide

Please adhere to the NeoWiki Style Guide when adding new pages or editing existing pages. The Style Guide can be found in Help:Editing.

Main_Page content questions and discussion

When did we lose "NeoOffice/J" or the like from the first sentence below Welcome? We talk about 3 apps on the main page; which of them is the "Mac OS X port of OpenOffice.org"? Or are we meaning that generically? People who visit the main page might be confused?

--sardisson 18:33, 28 Mar 2005 (CST)

i put NeoOffice back in... there is a definate confusion i think amounst all of the NeoOffice pages about what Neo really is. I've started talking to Ed and Patrick about it. so, more to follow. -- 11:47, 29 Mar 2005 (CST)

I thought back in December it was decided to go with "NeoOffice/J" through the 1.x releases and "NeoOffice" once it hit 2.0 and had "full" aquafication?

I think we need to try and get "NeoOffice" out of use for a while as an app name ("NeoOffice.org" and "the NeoOffice project[s]" excepted) because "NeoOffice" the app still means NeoOffice/C to a lot of people (hard to promote the new name of an app if the app was renamed after development ceased :D), and it's confusing to use NeoOffice for /J, too.... Anyway. My head is foggy tonight.... --sardisson 01:12, 30 Mar 2005 (CST)

FWIW I agree.. I'd use neooffice/J and /C up until the 2.0 release. I think that's clearer. The downside is people think it's written in java, but oh well. --Waldo 14:14, 30 Mar 2005 (CST)

Random Quotes Idea

I wish that MediaWiki had an option to do a "random quote"-- ie, something like:

?This is quote one|this is quote two|etc?

where every time you loaded the page, one of the above choices would appear.

Why?

I'd love to see random testimonials like this on the front page:

"I am in love" --AnonyCoward

"Tx to all of you guys to make this wonderful alternative to MS Office." --PD150

"I downloaded Neooffice yesterday and am flabbergasted" --Falk

etc

--Waldo 22:08, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

That would be cool! Can we suggest it for the next version?

--sardisson 10:11, 22 Apr 2005 (CDT)

I suppose it couldn't hurt to try. Maybe the other idea is to do a page of endorsements, complements, thanks, and kudos from the public and just link to it.. call it "testimonials" or something..?

--Waldo 14:21, 22 Apr 2005 (CDT)

What's Left To Do

  • Templates (let's hide some of these wacky headers, tabs, edit buttons, and get a larger default font?)
Here's the MediaWiki CSS reference http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_styles (next time I have a weekend.... sardsson)
  • Plus that NeoWiki:Copyrights link at the bottom needs its details :-)

Notes from the jake-of-all-trades

Ok, so I found out more about the skins. they are generated almost entirely by PHP. This is good, my PHP is better than my CSS, but this also means that i have to be careful as to not break anything. I'll play with it some later. Main things, to see about moving some of the top things to 'logged in only' mode and to get more links on the side (to match the main page)

Ideally I'd make a page that looked just like Tavi for the unlogged, and then when you logged in this would be what you saw, but we'll see.

THe front page (neooffice.org) should be updated.

I was trying to think of a way we could make a 'developer' page for us to discuss the wiki (maybe even experiment) without getting in the way of the main site. more to follow.

-j ps. chimera doesn't like the editing type buttons.

What "editing type buttons"? And why are you still using Chimera? -sa

the buttons at the top of the edit window, you know dig sig and things like that. and i use chimera because i don't like camino. (see rant in trinity)

-- 07:00, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)

Ah, well, they do work in Camino. I missed the rant but I'll look it up :-)

--sardisson 17:26, 1 Feb 2005 (CST)



Old Discussion on adopting MediaWiki as the new NeoWiki

Wiki software successfully installed.

Please see documentation on customizing the interface and the User's Guide for usage and configuration help.

New Section

WikiWords don't seem to work here; unsure whether this is good or bad.

Overall, MediaWiki will take a little bit of getting used to (the new/different formatting conventions in the wiki), but it seems nice enough in my limited time playing around (hmm, how do I set my timezone?) If it can lock it down a bit (so that people at least must log in--deter the casual folks who I think are the ones messing with things now) it might be worth it, if Jake feels he can get the template set up OK.

Lots of pages in the old wiki are only linked from one other page, so care will be needed bringing it over....

--sardisson 23:11, 30 Dec 2004 (CST)

More sections

I personally dislike WikiWords because they are too techie and frequently you do not want them to link. Time zone is set in your preferences page, BTW. I find MediaWiki nice to administer as well, though I haven't tried editing the skins.

New version (1.4.0) is coming out soon (I helped test it - busy little ant). Not that many new features that you'll need here, though.

BTW, you can set it up to only allow registered users to edit by putting the following line into your localsetting.php:

$wgWhitelistEdit = true;

Ovvldc 19:05, 1 Jan 2005 (CST)

Another section

So, I now think this looks really busy, too many little "edit" buttons all over and tocs and links and so forth. (Thanks, Waldo, for bringing everything over...it made things easier to see in a real-life comparison!) Don't know if editing the templates can help here or not. Hmm. What're the latest feelings about this, jake?

--sardisson 02:27, 14 Jan 2005 (CST)

i think the style of the media wiki is to have all of those edits.

however, that should be a sign, if there are 'too many' edits, the page is probably too long (unless it is a FAQ or something) and perhaps some organization is needed.

(?)

It puts the little edit thing every place you have a header/section. I've turned them, and the annoying tables-of-contents, off in my user prefs, so it's surely possible to disable them in your new template, too :-) I think the place the "edits" most bothered me was on the main page and now the FAQ....

-sa

Front Page Re-org

not really a redesign, per se (though i want to figure out what is wrong with the tables), but just a re-org idea. Basically lets move the /c to the bottom and make it ONLY a single line of text, something like "to see legacy information on the /c version, click here" and then move the X11 part up, maybe make it feel not so much like a stepchild. Of course we'll drop the /J from Neo (yay!) and just talk about how it uses cocoa and java to make magic happen. (does that make patrick and ed elves? hmm...) so like this (example is text only)

NeoOffice - Cocoa and Java!!

NeoLight - Spotlight, OpenDocuments, Happiness!

OO.oX11 Cool stuff for Unix Geeks!

Neo/C - Archive, you REALLY want Neo

thoughts?

-- 08:25, 24 October 2005 (CDT)

edit, started a sandbox front page to test stuff: Newmainpage -- 08:49, 24 October 2005 (CDT)

So what is up with the table for OOo? The same exact structure we use for Neo/J, Neo/C, NeoL...works in a completely different way for OOo. How odd?! --sardisson 17:59, 24 October 2005 (CDT)


do you mean on the new front page or this one? the tables never seem to work right with me, the image sometimes over the text, the text doing weird word wrap around the image, seems to be varied on my screen size (and maybe browser, haven't tested too much).

-- 08:51, 26 October 2005 (CDT)

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